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. you know, if you look at the situation, it would -- he -- he says he is going to increase defense spending. he says he is going to give us all a $5 trillion tax cut or at least the wealthy people and balance the budget. that doesn't take an act of congress. it takes magic. >> jennifer: all right. you are in his war room prepping him for debates, and you know you are going to get this question. how does the math work? what loopholes, deductions will you close or reduce? what would you advise him? >> there are over 200 tax deductions we have out there. his $5 trillion tax increases would cost us $550 billion a year. that's half of all of the deductions that are already out there. the top five account for 50% of that $1.1 trillion. and that's -- you know, that's health care, they are not going to cut that. [overlapping speakers] >> jennifer: okay. >> here is what he is going to do. he is going to tell the people that he is going to go the economy; that people are going to be out there paying taxes; there are going to be far fewer unemployed -- >> jennifer: that's
during the debate, then automatically you are playing defense and wasting the time you would like to be using to make a proactive statement just reacting to what the other person is saying. so i think if somebody hits you with a lie in a debate you have to let the fact checker do some of that heavy lifter for you. when you were in the debate did you feels like you could respond? >> jennifer: when you are in a debate and somebody has said something completely false about you, you think do i want to spend my time responding to that craziness, which gets me really mad because they have done this or spend my time with my proactive agenda. there are some things you may want to respond to but when should you use your valuable debate time to actually do a response to an attack. >> i think when it's to your benefit to do that, if you can turn that around and make the other person who is making the charge look bad, that's when you do it. but it is so tricky. the thing that is so interesting about debates is you are in the moment. there is so much pressure, so much goi
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